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Soft Fork Risks underrepresented #29

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BitcoinErrorLog opened this issue Nov 7, 2024 · 5 comments
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Soft Fork Risks underrepresented #29

BitcoinErrorLog opened this issue Nov 7, 2024 · 5 comments

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@BitcoinErrorLog
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BCAP details the difference between soft and hard forks and highlights risks around contentious upgrades. It gives practical examples like SegWit and Bitcoin Cash but portrays soft forks as inherently better due to backward compatibility.

In practice, many soft forks can effectively be hard, and due to shallow support for old versions, most Bitcoin Core users are forced to accept all updates eventually. These aspects should be acknowledged.

Soft forks can covertly tighten rules, reducing optionality without explicit user consent. This hidden cost—complexity and decreased fungibility—gets overlooked in BCAP’s analysis.

Soft forks have economic and moral implications beyond technical compatibility. The BCAP analysis misses how these changes can silently impact user incentives and the network’s overall health.

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Giszmo commented Nov 7, 2024

Also "Furthermore, for soft forks, only the nodes that want to use the newly proposed rules have to upgrade." is wrong as clearly miners have to upgrade, too. If they don't, they risk being in violation with tighter rules and getting rejected by upgraded miners.

@moneyball
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moneyball commented Nov 8, 2024 via email

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Not sure if he wants to get involved, by I will at least tag @evoskuil

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evoskuil commented Nov 9, 2024

I haven’t read it, but soft forks are not backward compatible rules.

Majority hash power enforcement is required to prevent a chain split that will otherwise result from soft fork deployment by economic nodes. No fraction of economic node support can prevent such a split between it and other nodes.

As for terminology I personally avoid the term “upgrade” to refer to rule additions. A new rule is a new coin, and what may be an upgrade to some may look like a downgrade or even an attack to others. For example, state censorship can be imposed through a soft fork (i.e. majority hash power enforcement). The question is only whether the new coin will coexist with the preceding coin (chain split), or will the new coin or preceding coin cease to exist.

@moneyball
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I agree the language "upgrade" implies improvement and that may or may not be the case. @rencryptofish there are dozens of instances of "upgrade" in BCAP right now including the title. I think we should evaluate what it would look like to choose more neutral language.

Also @Giszmo's comment about about miners is something we could improve the wording as well.

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