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Add Karmilla #1542

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hmaesta opened this issue Apr 19, 2018 · 12 comments
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Add Karmilla #1542

hmaesta opened this issue Apr 19, 2018 · 12 comments
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@hmaesta
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hmaesta commented Apr 19, 2018

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I really like Karla (Google Fonts), but unfortunately that is a dead project.
Karmilla is a replacement, with support for several languages.

Karmilla is a slightly modified version of Karla.

Karla is an outstanding grotesque sans serif typeface family created by Jonathan Pinhorn (@jonpinhorn_type, a graduate of the MA in Typeface Design at the University of Reading), released through Google Webfonts in 2012.

The aim of Karmilla is to offer a workaround for designers who want to use Karla but need support for French, German, Norvegian, Slovak or Icelandic, which requires adding and tweaking some glyphs.

https://github.com/ms-studio/karmilla

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hmaesta commented Apr 19, 2018

Realized that is already a discussion about this on ms-studio/karmilla#31.

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davelab6 commented Dec 5, 2018

Also mentioned today https://twitter.com/eddiehultin/status/1070331897820127232

@laerm0 laerm0 added III Expand glyphset more features and more language coverage Priority 2 - Important but not Urgent labels Jan 28, 2019
@laerm0 laerm0 added this to the Add New Families milestone Jan 28, 2019
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Any updates please?

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hmaesta commented Jan 25, 2020

I think this font project is abandoned.

ms-studio/karmilla#54

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No, it certainly isn’t.

@RosaWagner RosaWagner removed this from the Add New Families milestone Aug 13, 2021
@RosaWagner RosaWagner added I New Font II Submission pending proposal for non-commissioned fonts suggested in the issue tracker and removed III Expand glyphset more features and more language coverage labels Nov 25, 2021
@davelab6 davelab6 added this to the Submissions to review milestone Mar 17, 2023
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Hi @hmaesta, we actually updated Karla's glyphset at the beginning of the year. There are some clear design issues though (capital eszett for example), but we would rather continue improving Karla instead of onboarding a new family. If you are willing to improve Karla, you can tag me in a pull request in https://github.com/googlefonts/karla and I'll be happy to review ;)

@RosaWagner RosaWagner closed this as not planned Won't fix, can't repro, duplicate, stale Aug 30, 2023
@github-project-automation github-project-automation bot moved this from Todo to In Dev / PR Merged in Google Fonts Aug 30, 2023
@RosaWagner RosaWagner removed this from the Submissions to review milestone Aug 30, 2023
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andrewshadura commented Aug 30, 2023

Well, I asked in googlefonts/karla#8, and received no response for two years…
googlefonts/karla#4 has also not been answered since May 2021.

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yeah well we don't "watch" all the googlefonts repositories (they are hundreds of them and we are 5 people) but if you tag me or another onboarder we can give it a look. I mean for pull requests. In this repository you can also see that we have several thousands of open issues and a queue of hundreds of projects to onboard or debug. It's not that they are dead, it just take time, and I am giving time now.

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Great, thanks.
I guess the last missing bits are the Cyrillic letters, possibly something else. Once you pull those in, as @ms-studio pointed out, the raison d'être for the fork will cease to exist.

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Hello everyone! I just opened the sources again in fontforge, and I saw that italics are missing for cyrillic (at least in bold).

So in the current state (missing glyphs, old fontforge file, no italics), it's complicated for us to merge Cyrillic with Karla.
Too many elements are still missing. If you want to update this, it would be easier to work directly on the Karla, and on the Glyphs or ufo files.
Thanks anyway for this sollicitation :)

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@emmamarichal, thanks for the update.
Unfortunately, I cannot run Glyphs since it’s Mac-only, and also I’m afraid I personally lack skills and time to improve the Cyrillic glyphs.

@davelab6 davelab6 added this to the Icebox milestone Aug 30, 2023
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@andrewshadura sure, I understand. Commissioning a cyrillic roman quality upgrade and new italic is a good idea for the future, so I'm adding this to the "icebox" milestone, but for now I don't think this is practical to move ahead.

@RosaWagner RosaWagner moved this from Todo to Won't happen in Google Fonts Aug 30, 2023
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