What is the state of the joomla framework?

[dmitriitux]

Hello everybody!
My task is to create a microservice, I will build it in php. I need base classes for this which the joomla framework has. Without cms structure and extensions for it.
The question is, what is the state of the framework? Can it be used in a combat project?

[dmitriitux]

@brianteeman Hi, can you answer this question? or do you know who can give the answer?

[HLeithner]

Atm main maintainer of the framework is @nibra

Project by Joomla using the framework 2.0
https://github.com/joomla/help.joomla.org
and
https://github.com/joomla/framework.joomla.org

hope that helps you start

[dmitriitux]

thanks, Where are these repositories used?
https://github.com/orgs/joomla-framework/repositories

[HLeithner]

installed with composer https://github.com/joomla/help.joomla.org/blob/master/composer.json ?

[dmitriitux]

and, I realized, these are just site repositories =)

[dmitriitux]

@nibra hi, can you answer the question I asked here above? about the stability of the framework, we need to load some of the joomla components with a composer, to work with the database, files, cache and etc.

[HLeithner]

The framework has it own unit tests and should be tested very well (better then the cms).

Sure the cms has special requirements that can't be provided by the framework because the repositories do only one thing and (normally) don't interact or require another framework component.

So basically if you like to use the framework you use parts of it but don't build the cms with it (that doesn't make sense because the cms is already here).

For example I use the database layer, the inputfilter and sometimes the registry for my projects that don't use the cms.

[nibra]

@dmitriitux The framework is stable and production ready. It is heavily tested. If you're not convinced, clone the package you want to use and run the included tests. I use the framework in a lot of projects myself.

[dmitriitux]

making your own cms is pointless, that's understandable.
I understood about testing.

What about the implementation? then that in the framework it is purely abstraction sometimes, and the implementation in cms? it turns out you need to write your own implementation in the same way, for example, processing the same Input

[nibra]

that in the framework it is purely abstraction sometimes

What do you mean?

[dmitriitux]

@nibra
I meant that the implementation can be in cms, but in the framework it is not there and you have to write it yourself. but it was I who communicated with colleagues who tried to use the framework and encountered this. Now I rummaged myself and see that the current code in the overrides in cms and frameworks differ slightly. I will study in more detail and will report here if I notice this, there are strong differences between the framework and cms.

Thank you for your answers.

[wilsonge]

For the CMS we override Input specifically as an example purely because of the backwards compatible implications for typehinting. As you can see we've deprecated all the classes in favour of the framework classes and there are no major differences. In 4.x we changed the inheritance tree to extend from the framework to allow for the typehints to be against the framework class and in 5.0 we'll remove the CMS classes entirely.

There are also concrete cases (e.g. filter) where there might be cms specific implementations - such as the username regex's etc. but these things are class specific.