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IRAM256-2067A2 Obsolete and out of stock #91

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maxschommer opened this issue May 6, 2018 · 47 comments
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IRAM256-2067A2 Obsolete and out of stock #91

maxschommer opened this issue May 6, 2018 · 47 comments

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@maxschommer
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IRAM256-2067A2 is obsolete and out of stock everywhere I looked.

@crinq
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crinq commented May 6, 2018

Yes, Infineon discontinued it after they bought IR.
New design is in the pipeline.

@crinq crinq closed this as completed May 6, 2018
@rene-dev rene-dev reopened this May 6, 2018
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rene-dev commented May 6, 2018

IRAM256-1567A2 or IRAM256-1067A2 can be used as replacement, but they only have 15 and 10A, but thats plenty for most servos.
they are still available at mouser.

@stupotmcdoodlepip
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Have you chosen a new part for the next revision yet? I'd like to get some boards made soon so would like to start gathering components.
Many thanks for this project!

@rene-dev
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the next revision is far from complete, dont bother stocking parts. Make v4 if you cant wait.

@rene-dev
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All A2 models seem to be out of stock now. The A models can be bodged in:
stmbl_v4

@mztulip
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mztulip commented Sep 3, 2018

Any progress with new revision?

@crinq
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crinq commented Sep 3, 2018

yes, but not ready yet

@meet-gopani
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can we replace IRAM256-2067A2 with ON semiconductors- STK551U3A2A-E ?
http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2354470.pdf?_ga=2.109968454.293445377.1539426500-505894212.1539426500

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crinq commented Oct 13, 2018

No this does not work with 3 low side shunts (connected emitters of the lower igbts).
The next STMBL version has a discrete 3 PH bridge with TO220, but the design is not ready yet.

@meet-gopani
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okay, thank you!
STK554U392A-E: this is 15A version and this works with 3 low side shunts
http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2354469.pdf?_ga=2.30356220.293445377.1539426500-505894212.1539426500
will it work?

@corrylaz
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corrylaz commented Jan 3, 2019

I know I feel like a total nag. I was going to build one of these, the bought a full CNC instead....but it turns out that machine can't get "Polygonal turning" (I want it for gear hobbing) so I'm going to add a spindle I can synchronize. I was planning on the full 2Kw. I may see if I can beg for one of the older chips. I'm not requiring this....now....as I've got some other design and building to do of the mechanical parts. Any hints as to when it will be out? Any beta's? as long as its not going to catch on fire, I'm game :)

@acetylen-joe
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I have a source, they got 20 units of the IRAM256-2067A2 in Stock left, but these costs 44,06€ per piece. If you think it is worth it i can order these IBGT Modules. I am from Germany (Berlin).

@awigen
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awigen commented Feb 19, 2019

I'd like to order three!

@corrylaz
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I’m no github expert, otherwise it contact you off of this (if it’s possible). I’d order 4. If you can get my contact info, just contact me direct. I’m in the USA, so I know shipping won’t be the easiest!

@silopolis
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silopolis commented Feb 20, 2019 via email

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sounds interesting, any more info about the machine?

@acetylen-joe
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@rene-dev can yo give a guess or an etimation when the next version / generation of the STMBL Board will be published - that means without the obsolete IRAM Chips from Infineon therefore with an other IBGT module?

I am undecided or it is worth to build the actual design with the last IRAM256 Chips if maybe in a couple of weeks there will be no more need for this IBGT Module and it is replaed with a new Version with estimated Production Lifetife for ne next 10+ years. And of course a lot cheaper than the last IRAM Chips in Stock now.

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Sync- commented Feb 20, 2019

It won't be ready in the next couple of weeks.

@acetylen-joe
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so we are talking about months or years?

@silopolis
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silopolis commented Feb 20, 2019 via email

@5tran9er
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Hi guys.
Who is interested in IRAMs can find some at tme.eu
At the moment they declare 63 pcs in stock.
Thee ones that I ordered came from Poland as I remember
The price is 22€ each for 3+ pcs

@beelash
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beelash commented Feb 20, 2019 via email

@acetylen-joe
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If the Vers. 4.1 of the stmbl works with the IRAM256-2067A Module, i will give it a try. But i have one Question left: whats the difference between the IRAM256-2067A and the IRAM256-2067A2 IGBTs?

@rene-dev
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the way the pins are bend.
#91 (comment)

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awigen commented Feb 26, 2019

@rene-dev STK554U392A-E looks to be pin compatible, do you have any thoughts on this?

https://uk.farnell.com/on-semiconductor/stk554u392a-e/motor-driver-3-phase-ac-15a-sip/dp/2424504

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Dynoteq commented Mar 8, 2019

Infineon IKCM series seems to be a good replacement, for example IKCM30F60GA. It would require only minor modification to the existing design.

@kamilkamil1
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Hi Rene,
I am very impressed with you project. I know the question would I ask was asked many time but answer was not exactly for my question. Could you tell me if the new version of stmbl for TO220 will change only the HV power board or also control board ?

Thank you.

@crinq
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crinq commented Mar 21, 2019

the logic board will change slightly to keep the isolation distance (the cutout for the HV mounting screw moves a bit)

@jagdeepsingh02
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Hello @crinq any news on the new version? thanks :)

@asorien
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asorien commented Jan 5, 2020

Hi ! I have a question before starting to build the v4.1 stmbl : all versions have the same pcb layout ?

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asorien commented Jan 5, 2020

from were I can download the pcb layout and who make it the cheapest ? Thank s!

@crinq
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crinq commented Jan 17, 2020

V4.3 pcb data is there: /hw/kicad/v4.0
but you should try to source the iram first

@kamilkamil1
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Hi Crinq,

Can I omit some components (not solder, eg SN65176B) if I need only encoder and step/dir inputs ? I want to check firstly the connection between PC and STMBL board.

Thank you.

@rene-dev
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rene-dev commented Feb 3, 2020

yes, that is possible.

@kamilkamil1
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Thank you Rene,

@STEPPING3DCAD
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Shouldn't this new infineon IM393X6FXKLA1 part work?? It looks like the replacement for it, although they don't say that... It's obviously not directly pin-compatible, but the data sheets are almost identical.

https://au.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Infineon-Technologies/IM393X6FXKLA1?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtKB4wrjsn3lUUtnZ7xtd6RKKFrk9F5T%2Fg%3D

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crinq commented Feb 12, 2020

DIP parts don't work in the current form factor.

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ShadeTechnik commented Mar 15, 2020

The IM393X6FXKLA1 is a SIP part but it doesn't have the forward bent legs like the A2 version of the original power IC. It would be a similar bodge to the "A" model as for angle, but the pinout is different. With re-routing of the power board it looks like it would work but the angle is not good for the form factor

Reworking the power board -for- the DIP package would actually probably be the easiest scenario as the power IC can still sit on the bottom of the PCB screwed against the heatsink. I may actually give this a try, the power PCB section is alot more simple to deal with, it's mostly just mechanical concerns with mounting. I didn't fully study the datasheet, but I think the IKCM20L60GDXKMA1 would work for this.

@rene-dev
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there is no space to re route it properly with this formfactor, feel free to try.

@pacoespinola1
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is there somebody trying a solution?
I am going to try may be the IM393X6FXKLA1.

@krzysiek-007
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Hi.
Anyone can sell me 1 pcs stmbl?
Sorry for my English

@metacomgd
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Rochester electronics have ~4k in stock, MOQ of 17 at $15.28 a piece
https://www.rocelec.com/part/INFIRAM256-2067A2

@elektonik-computer
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Hello, did I understand correctly the IRAM256-2067A2 can I replace with the IRAM256-2067A in the PCB version STMBL 4.3?
Thanks Axel

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crinq commented Dec 29, 2021

yes, but you need a custom heatsink/case/mounting solution

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fettah2 commented Aug 20, 2023

Hi, it may be a bit late, but please ShadeTechnik have you succeeded with IKCM20L60GDXKMA1 or other part?
any news for this wonderful project ??

@artayasa
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All A2 models seem to be out of stock now. The A models can be bodged in: stmbl_v4

Hi sir it posible to change the iram with this chip IKCM30F60GA???
And also i just want to used step dir comunication only ( i want to used mach3) so can i remove some parts??? To save more money??.

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