Strange behavior for validation of RTE inside a block list field

[Pieter-vdh]

Which Umbraco version are you using? (Please write the exact version, example: 10.1.0)

13.2.2

Bug summary

When using Block List fields that contain an Element Type including a mandatory Rich Text Editor, the validation gives a vague message when publishing.

Specifics

This might be related to a previous bug report: #15270

An item that contains a Block List always seems to give a vague error when publishing if the element inside the list contains a Rich Text Editor.
This seems to only be the case for mandatory field validation. Not for custom validation.

Here is what I did:
My page item contains a Block List with elements of type ValidationElement. This element type contains 3 fields:

• Title (Textstring + Mandatory)
• MandatoryText (Rich Text Editor + Mandatory)
• CustomValidationText (Rich Text Editor + Custom validation as email)

I edit my page item and add a new ValidationElement to my list.
I don't fill in any values and try to submit. This gives me the validation error that my Title field is mandatory. No message for the other 2 fields.

I fill in the title and submit. No validation error at this point.
I save and publish. I get a red validation error that something inside my list is wrong.

I see that the CustomValidationText is not correctly filled in. However, no message for the empty MandatoryText field.

I fill in this field (in this case with an email address). I submit and get no error again at this point. Once again, I save and publish.
I now get a yellow warning error that 'some' validation failed. But no specific direction as to where or what.

When I open my list element details, there is no validation message anywhere.
I press 'Save and publish' a second time and now I get a red validation error.

The field with the error is now also marked.

What is causing this inconsistency?
Especially the vague yellow warning is very confusing to content creators as they won't realize that you have to click 'Save and publish' a second time to get the real error message.

Any help would be appreciated

Steps to reproduce

Create an Element Type with 3 fields:

• Title (Textstring + Mandatory)
• MandatoryText (Rich Text Editor + Mandatory)
• CustomValidationText (Rich Text Editor + Custom validation as email)

Create a Document Type with 1 field:

• List (Block List that allows adding the created Element Type)

Follow the steps in the description above.

Expected result / actual result

Expected result:
Validation is consistent and will show either when clicking 'Submit' or 'Save and publish' for all fields.

Actual result:
The Rich Text Fields behave differently based on their settings. Mandatory RTE fields produce a yellow warning error on 'Save and publish' that is too vague to be useful, especially when using complicated Document Types with many different Block Lists.

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This item has been added to our backlog AB#43158

[github-actions]

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[NguyenThuyLan]

Hi @Pieter-vdh , I agree this is a really annoying bug and needs to be fixed. I will let the team know. Thank you for reporting.
I reproduced this issue and noticed that in v14, mandatory fields don't even have * marked as required.
Btw, the CustomValidationText should not be warned because it is not mandatory and can be empty.

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[Pieter-vdh]

Hi @NguyenThuyLan

Yes, you are correct. The CustomValidationText Should not report a problem when left empty. As you can see in this screenshot it does do that. So this is another bug in my opinion.

Thank you for opening this up to the community.