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Update IfcVoidingFeature.md #799
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The number of holes in buildings can exceed the number of openings. I suggest adding the use of Reference Geometry concept for IfcVoidingFeature in the same way as IfcOpeningElement. An IFC file with Reference Geometry for IfcVoidingFeature will make the work of viewers easier. I also suggest using Quantity Sets concept for IfcVoidingFeature. Holes reduce the weight of building structures while increasing the surface area of the structure. It will be useful to get the design characteristics of holes for consideration in the building model. I note that these changes will be useful in IFC4_ADD2_TC1 - 4.0.2.1
It would be good to know if the current situation is intentional or not. I can imagine that for example holes for screws increase the triangle count dramatically more than window openings do, while maybe not as significant for visual display or quantities. But it could also simply be an oversight due to abstractions being introduced into the inheritance hierarchy. Maybe @TLiebich has some recollection of this? On a technical note, this only the documentation change, the actual association of a concept template to an entity needs to be defined in UML, but we can apply that change. |
@TLiebich please provide insights. |
not sure whether I completely follow the original question. There seems to be several aspects to the issue:
to 1) voiding features should be handled the same way as opening elements - looking back to the IFC specification, some documentation to this regard should be added (e.g. the explicit use of reference geometry not to be used on Boolean operations, the definition of a base quantity set, etc.) whether or not holes for bolds and screws are to be modelled and exchanged is more an information requirement question and not an IFC or MVD question. I know that software like TEKLA provides an export option to avoid having all this holes that increases file size and import time with little added value. so my recommendation would be to enhance the definition of IfcVoidingFeature (following mainly IfcOpeningElement) |
Agreed. Feel free to suggest a proposal.
To me this make sense. Similar to how we have "if the IfcShapeRepresentation.RepresentationIdentifier = 'Reference', then the Reference shape representation of the opening is not subtracted. It is provided in addition to the hole in the Body shape representation of the voided element." We could either:
I think option1 is not too great of an idea because this |
Quantity Sets concept for IfcVoidingFeature copy of Qto_OpeningElementBaseQuantities with one modification: Depth | The depth of the object. | Depth (or thickness) of the voiding feature. Only provided, if the depth is constant. Representation - would opt for: Whether or not an application does exclude voids from the export all together is in my view not part of the spec. It is an application functionality for its IFC interface. |
The number of holes in buildings can exceed the number of openings. I suggest adding the use of Reference Geometry concept for IfcVoidingFeature in the same way as IfcOpeningElement. An IFC file with Reference Geometry for IfcVoidingFeature will make the work of viewers easier.
I also suggest using Quantity Sets concept for IfcVoidingFeature. Holes reduce the weight of building structures while increasing the surface area of the structure. It will be useful to get the design characteristics of holes for consideration in the building model.
I note that these changes will be useful in IFC4_ADD2_TC1 - 4.0.2.1