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Removes TWitch from normal rounds, and blacklists key chems from stra #4626

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@OliverOtter OliverOtter commented Dec 20, 2024

Be me
Admin shift, time to pull up big boy pants
Observe some people with sandevistan effect
Examine more and realize its TWitch chem
Test with TWitch chem, realize OD'ing gives you a 100% projectile dodge chance, while giving meth speed, that IS stackable with meth.
You can create it pretty easily, and strange seed it.
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As the story implies, nerfs strange seeds by adding a blacklist for certain chemicals. And makes TWitch an admin only chemical.

Why It's Good For The Game

I dont think i need to explain how meth speed + projectile immunity is inherently unhealthy, especially with little downsides and easy (with some smarts) access. Also, we dont need botany to grow adminordrazine banana's. They're already strong as is. This doesnt remove it, nor the autoinjector form the game, but makes it admin only.

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balance: Blacklisted spesific antag and admin reagents from strange seeds.
balance: Changed the recipe for TWitch, making it effectivly impossible to get. If you somehow make it, you earned it.
del: Removed the TWitch injector from a hacked ordering computer.
admin: Added a warning to the TWitch autoinjector OPFOR item.
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@github-actions github-actions bot changed the title Removes TWitch from normal rounds, and blacklists key chems from stra… Removes TWitch from normal rounds, and blacklists key chems from stra Dec 20, 2024
/datum/reagent/impedrezene = 5,
/datum/reagent/bluespace = 10,
/datum/reagent/consumable/liquidelectricity = 2,
/datum/reagent/medicine/adminordrazine = 30,
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I suggest making it need lavaland reagents instead, that or making it be a secret recipe like metalgen, currently this is a waste of adminordrazine as its still a better chem

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I contemplated on this, but decided not to. Having full projectile immunity is extremely busted, and it's not suppose to be made anyways, which is why it uses adminordrazine.

@@ -71,7 +71,19 @@
var/list/infusion_mutations = list()
///infusion damage
var/infusion_damage = 0

///Blacklist for strange seeds, because botany is already as strong as it is.
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this should be in a modular folder

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I'll move it when I get home then.

@Kitsunemitsu Kitsunemitsu added Removal a thing is removed Balance perfectly balanced as all things should be labels Dec 20, 2024
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RafRoq commented Dec 22, 2024

there is already a way to remove chems from strange seeds, remove the REAGENT_CAN_BE_SYNTHESIZED flag from the chem, you don't need to make it admin only, there are a few ways to make something exclusive instead of removing it entirely but adminbus rounds.

I'm not a maintainer but i don't see with good eyes hasty uncreative attempts of nerfs

I also think muscle stimulants should not be blacklisted

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Personally I don't really have a huge problem with TWitch, and I can think of a few better ways to nerf it than just... essentially outright removing it? But my main issue here is the fact this also removes a few miscellaneous chems from strange seeds, without really justifying it or mentioning it (save for offhandedly in the changelog).

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