Skip to content

Saturn MLV

friznit edited this page Apr 20, 2022 · 40 revisions

Background

Successive Saturn Modified Launch Vehicle studies as part of the Apollo Applications Program proposed a dazzling array of Saturn derived concepts, intended to deliver uprated heavy launch vehicles based on existing hardware.

Constrained mainly by the height of the VAB and launch infrastructure, Saturn MLV features upgraded F1A engines, stretched fuel tanks and improved upper stage engines such as the J-2T or a hypothetical "Advanced Engine." Meanwhile, Saturn ELV is the result of a NASA in-house study given no height restrictions.

Other designs including the Saturn V/4-260, which works around load bearing challenges by adding liquid fuel tanks on top of massive AJ-260X solid rocket boosters. An alternate approach employed by the Saturn V-23(L) uses strap on liquid rocket boosters with 2x F1A engines each.

Build Guide Notes The naming conventions from the various MLV studies can be confusing so they have been slightly simplified for the purpose of this guide.

The source docs refer to "Advanced Upper Stage Engines", often considered to be a reference to the conceptual HG-3, which was never developed. The RL20-P3 is used as a drop in replacement here.

The fins on the S-IC stage provided aerodynamic stability in the event of a main engine failure to support a successful abort with the Launch Escape System. Although many of the source doc images shows fins, it is likely that they would have been omitted from all post-Apollo Saturn builds to save weight.

The proposed length of fuel tanks varied a fair amount as studies matured over the years. The tank extensions listed here have been rationalised, rescaled to KSP scale and rounded to the nearest available size in BDB.

Baseline Stage B9 Tank Extension Engine Number & Type
S-V Centaur D 2x RL-10
S-IVB 1x J2
MS-IVB 3m 1x J2
S-II 5x J2
MS-II-1 1.5m 5x J2
MS-II-2 3m 5x J2
S-IC 5x F1
MS-IC-1 3m 5x F1A
MS-IC-4 6m 5x F1
MS-IC-25 9m 5x F1

Saturn MLV

Saturn MLV-V-1 Baseline

Variant First Second Third Boosters Comments
MLV-V-1 MS-IC-1 MS-II-1; 5xJ2 or J-2T S-IVB   J-2T allows short S-II interstage
MLV-V-1A MS-IC-1; 6xF1 MS-II-2; 7xJ2 MS-IVB    
MLV-V-2 MS-IC-1 MS-II-1 MS-IVB; 1xRL-20    
MLV-V-3 MS-IC-1 MS-II-2 MS-IVB; 1xRL-20    
MLV-V-3B MS-IC-1 MS-II-2; 4-7xRL20 MS-IVB; 1xRL-20 or J-2T   Uprated S-IC with INT-17 on top
MLV-V-4(S) S-IC S-II S-IVB 4x UA-1205  
MLV-V-4(S)A MS-IC-4 MS-II-1 MS-IVB 4x UA-1205  
MLV-V-4(S)B MS-IC-4 S-II S-IVB 4x UA-1207 V-22(S) with stretched tanks & adv engines dropped after Phase 1 study
MLV-V-23(L) MS-IC-1; 5xF1 S-II MS-IVB 25x4m (KSP Scale) LRB; 2x F1 24(L) with adv engines dropped after Phase 1 study
MLV-V-25(S) MS-IC-25 S-II MS-IVB 4x UA-1207
ELV MS-IC-4 MS-II-1; 7xJ2 MS-IVB 4x UA-1207 NASA no size limit study
V/4-260 S-IC MS-II-2   4x AJ-260X with addt'l fuel tanks Boeing study

Saturn MLV

image

Kerbal Koncepts: Saturn V ELV with an S-V fourth stage

Clone this wiki locally